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	<title>Comments on: Telstra responds to questions on Second Life withdrawal</title>
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		<title>By: Lowell Cremorne</title>
		<link>http://www.metaversejournal.com/2009/11/18/telstra-responds-to-questions-on-second-life-withdrawal/comment-page-1/#comment-206922</link>
		<dc:creator>Lowell Cremorne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there - I assume you mean Craig Middleton (the Telstra spokeperson) is being elusive?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there &#8211; I assume you mean Craig Middleton (the Telstra spokeperson) is being elusive?</p>
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		<title>By: Name</title>
		<link>http://www.metaversejournal.com/2009/11/18/telstra-responds-to-questions-on-second-life-withdrawal/comment-page-1/#comment-206921</link>
		<dc:creator>Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 07:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got the word that BigPond have agreed to waive contract obligations on an individual person basis to people who joined to use SL. This may have been limited to those on wireless connections only, I don&#039;t know for sure. Pond (SL) admin were aware of this although I question just how many Pond customers managed to get told the message. I saw no public mention of it in Pond SL notices. &#039;Friends of the Pond&#039; group was dissolved before the expected date of final closure, apparently because of griefing problems. Pond sims have been reduced to 5 now and much of the content has also been removed. Why would anyone want to go there now? there is nothing worth going there for. I can&#039;t quite understand the need to have vandalised the sims to this degree while still remaining open to the public. It seems pointless even remaining open now the damage is done.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What exactly did Telstra achieve to be claiming a huge success?? Bulk new internet subscribers?? I find it difficult to understand why something this successful would be removed. Is it normal practice to figure unexpected success then take it away again? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Reading the above conversation, seems to me that Lowell is being very elusive when queried about the cost of this venture. If it&#039;s a profit, wouldn&#039;t you proudly throw the numbers on the table and display them for all to see?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So bottom line is: the experiment revealed Telstra method of constant big brother style watch over the sims may have encouraged griefers rather than protect against them. Unanticipated griefing in the final few weeks forced premature closure of chat groups and made hard work of keeping sims free of issues. Telstra seem hesitant to reveal financial data about the whole experiment. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Feel free to comment in regards to any of this Mr Lowell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got the word that BigPond have agreed to waive contract obligations on an individual person basis to people who joined to use SL. This may have been limited to those on wireless connections only, I don&#39;t know for sure. Pond (SL) admin were aware of this although I question just how many Pond customers managed to get told the message. I saw no public mention of it in Pond SL notices. &#39;Friends of the Pond&#39; group was dissolved before the expected date of final closure, apparently because of griefing problems. Pond sims have been reduced to 5 now and much of the content has also been removed. Why would anyone want to go there now? there is nothing worth going there for. I can&#39;t quite understand the need to have vandalised the sims to this degree while still remaining open to the public. It seems pointless even remaining open now the damage is done.</p>
<p>What exactly did Telstra achieve to be claiming a huge success?? Bulk new internet subscribers?? I find it difficult to understand why something this successful would be removed. Is it normal practice to figure unexpected success then take it away again? </p>
<p>Reading the above conversation, seems to me that Lowell is being very elusive when queried about the cost of this venture. If it&#39;s a profit, wouldn&#39;t you proudly throw the numbers on the table and display them for all to see?</p>
<p>So bottom line is: the experiment revealed Telstra method of constant big brother style watch over the sims may have encouraged griefers rather than protect against them. Unanticipated griefing in the final few weeks forced premature closure of chat groups and made hard work of keeping sims free of issues. Telstra seem hesitant to reveal financial data about the whole experiment. </p>
<p>Feel free to comment in regards to any of this Mr Lowell</p>
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		<title>By: disabled</title>
		<link>http://www.metaversejournal.com/2009/11/18/telstra-responds-to-questions-on-second-life-withdrawal/comment-page-1/#comment-206913</link>
		<dc:creator>disabled</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 13:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for those hurt by the unmetered useage going, bigpond has new massive &quot;liberty plans&quot;:&gt;&lt;br&gt;I wont have to leave second life</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for those hurt by the unmetered useage going, bigpond has new massive &#8220;liberty plans&#8221;:&gt;<br />I wont have to leave second life</p>
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		<title>By: disabled but can fly in SL</title>
		<link>http://www.metaversejournal.com/2009/11/18/telstra-responds-to-questions-on-second-life-withdrawal/comment-page-1/#comment-206912</link>
		<dc:creator>disabled but can fly in SL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 13:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for those hurt by the unmetered useage going, bigpond has new massive &quot;liberty plans&quot;:&gt;&lt;br&gt;I wont have to leave second life</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for those hurt by the unmetered useage going, bigpond has new massive &#8220;liberty plans&#8221;:&gt;<br />I wont have to leave second life</p>
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		<title>By: TateruNino</title>
		<link>http://www.metaversejournal.com/2009/11/18/telstra-responds-to-questions-on-second-life-withdrawal/comment-page-1/#comment-206884</link>
		<dc:creator>TateruNino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They didn&#039;t make a business investment with the intention of getting a financial return, though. They made that fairly clear from the outset.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They didn&#39;t make a business investment with the intention of getting a financial return, though. They made that fairly clear from the outset.</p>
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		<title>By: simonhk</title>
		<link>http://www.metaversejournal.com/2009/11/18/telstra-responds-to-questions-on-second-life-withdrawal/comment-page-1/#comment-206881</link>
		<dc:creator>simonhk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They probably see growth of other new platforms - Facebook, Wii, iPhone and want to hope onto the bandwagon.  Though I have a feeling that as SL gets more mainstream over the next 12 months they may want to revisit their decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They probably see growth of other new platforms &#8211; Facebook, Wii, iPhone and want to hope onto the bandwagon.  Though I have a feeling that as SL gets more mainstream over the next 12 months they may want to revisit their decision.</p>
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		<title>By: skribe</title>
		<link>http://www.metaversejournal.com/2009/11/18/telstra-responds-to-questions-on-second-life-withdrawal/comment-page-1/#comment-206880</link>
		<dc:creator>skribe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typical non-answer answers.  I bet CM thinks they got away with it too.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;BTW, if I was locked into a contract for a service I was no longer receiving I&#039;d contact the TIO (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tio.com.au/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.tio.com.au/&lt;/a&gt;).  My experience with them has been very positive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typical non-answer answers.  I bet CM thinks they got away with it too.</p>
<p>BTW, if I was locked into a contract for a service I was no longer receiving I&#39;d contact the TIO (<a href="http://www.tio.com.au/" rel="nofollow">http://www.tio.com.au/</a>).  My experience with them has been very positive.</p>
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