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	<title>Comments on: The ABC in Second Life: are the monkeys running the zoo?</title>
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		<title>By: Wolfie Rankin</title>
		<link>http://www.metaversejournal.com/2008/05/07/the-abc-in-second-life-are-the-monkeys-running-the-zoo/comment-page-1/#comment-136019</link>
		<dc:creator>Wolfie Rankin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 16:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sakkano, you&#039;ve been a good Admin there, I hardly believe you wanted to shut the island down, you had your say, and that was that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Wolfie!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sakkano, you&#8217;ve been a good Admin there, I hardly believe you wanted to shut the island down, you had your say, and that was that.</p>
<p>Wolfie!</p>
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		<title>By: Wolfie Rankin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wolfie Rankin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 15:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sakkano, you&#039;ve been a good Admin there, I hardly believe you wanted to shut the island down, you had your say, and that was that.

Wolfie!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sakkano, you&#8217;ve been a good Admin there, I hardly believe you wanted to shut the island down, you had your say, and that was that.</p>
<p>Wolfie!</p>
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		<title>By: Sakkano Imako</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sakkano Imako</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 19:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okat, I did hear myself from one representative from ABC on teh matter. Of course, what I heard was not anythign appreciative.. and good reason I guess.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My words, they seem to have been confused with the traditional Australian view of the ABC; the punching bag. According to the representative, what I said looks like I am anti-art and against the ABC. Also, I was told that I am being too serious.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I was also told that ABC is an experimental place. Of course, I find this odd, because I didn&#039;t see or experience that kind of atmosphere. The biggest problem facing the ABC Island is apparently, a lack of communication. Additionally, I was told that the art galleries were given permission by said representative, though I can&#039;t help but wonder, if the galleries had full clearance on the corporate side, would the issue of closing them down due to copyright have ended up being what killed it?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think I should most definitely make it clear that I am no against the ABC, I am not for it&#039;s permanent closure. I am for putting ego aside. I am for teamwork. And I am for a serious evaluation of the situations.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sometimes someone has to be serious for others to have fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okat, I did hear myself from one representative from ABC on teh matter. Of course, what I heard was not anythign appreciative.. and good reason I guess.</p>
<p>My words, they seem to have been confused with the traditional Australian view of the ABC; the punching bag. According to the representative, what I said looks like I am anti-art and against the ABC. Also, I was told that I am being too serious.</p>
<p>I was also told that ABC is an experimental place. Of course, I find this odd, because I didn&#8217;t see or experience that kind of atmosphere. The biggest problem facing the ABC Island is apparently, a lack of communication. Additionally, I was told that the art galleries were given permission by said representative, though I can&#8217;t help but wonder, if the galleries had full clearance on the corporate side, would the issue of closing them down due to copyright have ended up being what killed it?</p>
<p>I think I should most definitely make it clear that I am no against the ABC, I am not for it&#8217;s permanent closure. I am for putting ego aside. I am for teamwork. And I am for a serious evaluation of the situations.</p>
<p>Sometimes someone has to be serious for others to have fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Sakkano Imako</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sakkano Imako</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 18:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okat, I did hear myself from one representative from ABC on teh matter. Of course, what I heard was not anythign appreciative.. and good reason I guess.

My words, they seem to have been confused with the traditional Australian view of the ABC; the punching bag. According to the representative, what I said looks like I am anti-art and against the ABC. Also, I was told that I am being too serious.

I was also told that ABC is an experimental place. Of course, I find this odd, because I didn&#039;t see or experience that kind of atmosphere. The biggest problem facing the ABC Island is apparently, a lack of communication. Additionally, I was told that the art galleries were given permission by said representative, though I can&#039;t help but wonder, if the galleries had full clearance on the corporate side, would the issue of closing them down due to copyright have ended up being what killed it?

I think I should most definitely make it clear that I am no against the ABC, I am not for it&#039;s permanent closure. I am for putting ego aside. I am for teamwork. And I am for a serious evaluation of the situations.

Sometimes someone has to be serious for others to have fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okat, I did hear myself from one representative from ABC on teh matter. Of course, what I heard was not anythign appreciative.. and good reason I guess.</p>
<p>My words, they seem to have been confused with the traditional Australian view of the ABC; the punching bag. According to the representative, what I said looks like I am anti-art and against the ABC. Also, I was told that I am being too serious.</p>
<p>I was also told that ABC is an experimental place. Of course, I find this odd, because I didn&#8217;t see or experience that kind of atmosphere. The biggest problem facing the ABC Island is apparently, a lack of communication. Additionally, I was told that the art galleries were given permission by said representative, though I can&#8217;t help but wonder, if the galleries had full clearance on the corporate side, would the issue of closing them down due to copyright have ended up being what killed it?</p>
<p>I think I should most definitely make it clear that I am no against the ABC, I am not for it&#8217;s permanent closure. I am for putting ego aside. I am for teamwork. And I am for a serious evaluation of the situations.</p>
<p>Sometimes someone has to be serious for others to have fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Wolfie Rankin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wolfie Rankin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 09:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think at the time ABC didn&#039;t really have anyone that they could call to host programs in-world, things may have changed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I did offer to Lise that if she was stuck, to give me a call and I&#039;d do my best as long as I had something to help me, a question sheet or a guide of some type... especially if I didn&#039;t know the subject very well.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What I&#039;d like to see is ABC with a stable of in-world presenters who know Art, Music, Politics, Sports, Gardening, Wildlife etc.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Perhaps that&#039;s an idea, maybe they need to scout for in-world talent, but they would be best to pay these people for their trouble, and Lindens would be acceptable I think.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;One program each night would be wonderful, if they could pull that off, and I believe they could, then there&#039;d be a major turnaround for the Island.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Voice is indeed a problem, I&#039;d love to use it with Rockit, but it wouldn&#039;t work.&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m dealing with people who I may not have met before, and so it would be extremely difficult to place a name to a voice and credit the right person with an answer... and I&#039;d lose chat history, which has saved me many times.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I believe I know the presenter you mean.&lt;br&gt;Eva and I have offered to give new ABC folk a little training and to help them with their looks before they do what they do, but unfortunately not everybody has the time to sit and play, and that is some of the problem.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;True, there&#039;s a lot of advice out there, but filtering out the &quot;noise&quot; is very difficult, especially when you&#039;re still fairly new... ok sure, they&#039;ve been here a year, but you know how it&#039;s been as well as I do.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think we&#039;re all frustrated with the island in some way, but I still have a feeling that things will turn out ok.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;One of our frustrations is that although we don&#039;t mind being volunteers, and here&#039;s me as an ex-volunteer at the moment, there was nobody taking charge as a leader, Sure Abi and Lise were available by e-mail, but we really need someone in-world who we respect and trust, and there&#039;s nobody who fits the bill.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Wolfie!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think at the time ABC didn&#8217;t really have anyone that they could call to host programs in-world, things may have changed.</p>
<p>I did offer to Lise that if she was stuck, to give me a call and I&#8217;d do my best as long as I had something to help me, a question sheet or a guide of some type&#8230; especially if I didn&#8217;t know the subject very well.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;d like to see is ABC with a stable of in-world presenters who know Art, Music, Politics, Sports, Gardening, Wildlife etc.</p>
<p>Perhaps that&#8217;s an idea, maybe they need to scout for in-world talent, but they would be best to pay these people for their trouble, and Lindens would be acceptable I think.</p>
<p>One program each night would be wonderful, if they could pull that off, and I believe they could, then there&#8217;d be a major turnaround for the Island.</p>
<p>Voice is indeed a problem, I&#8217;d love to use it with Rockit, but it wouldn&#8217;t work.<br />I&#8217;m dealing with people who I may not have met before, and so it would be extremely difficult to place a name to a voice and credit the right person with an answer&#8230; and I&#8217;d lose chat history, which has saved me many times.</p>
<p>I believe I know the presenter you mean.<br />Eva and I have offered to give new ABC folk a little training and to help them with their looks before they do what they do, but unfortunately not everybody has the time to sit and play, and that is some of the problem.</p>
<p>True, there&#8217;s a lot of advice out there, but filtering out the &#8220;noise&#8221; is very difficult, especially when you&#8217;re still fairly new&#8230; ok sure, they&#8217;ve been here a year, but you know how it&#8217;s been as well as I do.</p>
<p>I think we&#8217;re all frustrated with the island in some way, but I still have a feeling that things will turn out ok.</p>
<p>One of our frustrations is that although we don&#8217;t mind being volunteers, and here&#8217;s me as an ex-volunteer at the moment, there was nobody taking charge as a leader, Sure Abi and Lise were available by e-mail, but we really need someone in-world who we respect and trust, and there&#8217;s nobody who fits the bill.</p>
<p>Wolfie!</p>
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		<title>By: Paisley Beebe</title>
		<link>http://www.metaversejournal.com/2008/05/07/the-abc-in-second-life-are-the-monkeys-running-the-zoo/comment-page-1/#comment-136016</link>
		<dc:creator>Paisley Beebe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 11:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Wolfie thanks for that, I know you don&#039;t work for the ABC but you work with them I think....My point got a bit lost, yes its all pioneering ect..but there are many many people in SL involved in media now, that the ABC could actually learn from and I don&#039;t mean, just SLCN.TV staff ect..The ABC do not have to come in and reinvent the wheel..And I was not reffering to the professional presenters that I thought were bad, the presenter I was reffering to had newbie hair skin and clothes, and spoke to the audience on camera with all sort of instructions ect like a school marm..she just wasn&#039;t professional at all or even a good amature...you can&#039;t go on SL in any sort of representative capacity like that, and talk to the audience like a school assembly on camera...(I won&#039;t mention any names )....As a Presenter you  also should know about SL etiquette and standards ... A lot of other companies in SL they use a consultant when they come in so they don&#039;t have to start from scratch...and sound issues are the bane of our SL broadcasting life! beleive me..anyhow its all mute as they aren&#039;t doing those shows anymore the idea was great! but they should have got some advice there&#039;s plenty around...&lt;br&gt;Paisley</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Wolfie thanks for that, I know you don&#8217;t work for the ABC but you work with them I think&#8230;.My point got a bit lost, yes its all pioneering ect..but there are many many people in SL involved in media now, that the ABC could actually learn from and I don&#8217;t mean, just SLCN.TV staff ect..The ABC do not have to come in and reinvent the wheel..And I was not reffering to the professional presenters that I thought were bad, the presenter I was reffering to had newbie hair skin and clothes, and spoke to the audience on camera with all sort of instructions ect like a school marm..she just wasn&#8217;t professional at all or even a good amature&#8230;you can&#8217;t go on SL in any sort of representative capacity like that, and talk to the audience like a school assembly on camera&#8230;(I won&#8217;t mention any names )&#8230;.As a Presenter you  also should know about SL etiquette and standards &#8230; A lot of other companies in SL they use a consultant when they come in so they don&#8217;t have to start from scratch&#8230;and sound issues are the bane of our SL broadcasting life! beleive me..anyhow its all mute as they aren&#8217;t doing those shows anymore the idea was great! but they should have got some advice there&#8217;s plenty around&#8230;<br />Paisley</p>
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		<title>By: Wolfie Rankin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wolfie Rankin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 03:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Equipping itself to deal&quot; is the right action to take.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The record industry hasn&#039;t coped well with the sudden change in direction, people who formerly bought CDs, suddenly downloading mp3s.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;People are downloading movies and TV programs right now.&lt;br&gt;and perhaps the thing stopping more people doing so comes down to speed limits and costs, particularly in Australia where we are struggling in that department.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s going to cause a problem for the television industry soon.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;People won&#039;t wait for their favourite show, they&#039;ll download it and watch it when they have time.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just like people don&#039;t care that MP3s don&#039;t sound nearly as good as CDs do, they also won&#039;t care if the show is in High Definition or not, many will be satisfied to watch the program on a low definition portable device.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;TV Networks are going to be quite worried, as expected, so they will try Secondlife and other internet ventures.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A few weeks ago on Media Watch, there was a story about how newspapers are starting to feel the pinch, because younger readers are happier reading their news online rather than buying a newspaper.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And people would rather buy and sell via pages such as e-bay, than get an expensive classified in the papers.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It will be interesting to see how the music, movie and media [Triple M?] industries cope with the new age.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Wolfie!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Equipping itself to deal&#8221; is the right action to take.</p>
<p>The record industry hasn&#8217;t coped well with the sudden change in direction, people who formerly bought CDs, suddenly downloading mp3s.</p>
<p>People are downloading movies and TV programs right now.<br />and perhaps the thing stopping more people doing so comes down to speed limits and costs, particularly in Australia where we are struggling in that department.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s going to cause a problem for the television industry soon.</p>
<p>People won&#8217;t wait for their favourite show, they&#8217;ll download it and watch it when they have time.</p>
<p>Just like people don&#8217;t care that MP3s don&#8217;t sound nearly as good as CDs do, they also won&#8217;t care if the show is in High Definition or not, many will be satisfied to watch the program on a low definition portable device.</p>
<p>TV Networks are going to be quite worried, as expected, so they will try Secondlife and other internet ventures.</p>
<p>A few weeks ago on Media Watch, there was a story about how newspapers are starting to feel the pinch, because younger readers are happier reading their news online rather than buying a newspaper.</p>
<p>And people would rather buy and sell via pages such as e-bay, than get an expensive classified in the papers.</p>
<p>It will be interesting to see how the music, movie and media [Triple M?] industries cope with the new age.</p>
<p>Wolfie!</p>
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