Comments on: The ABC in Second Life: are the monkeys running the zoo? /2008/05/07/the-abc-in-second-life-are-the-monkeys-running-the-zoo/ Coverage of news, issues and events occurring in virtual worlds or those who create those worlds Sat, 01 Jan 2011 15:49:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Wolfie Rankin /2008/05/07/the-abc-in-second-life-are-the-monkeys-running-the-zoo/comment-page-1/#comment-136019 Wolfie Rankin Wed, 21 May 2008 16:47:50 +0000 /?p=1127#comment-136019 Sakkano, you've been a good Admin there, I hardly believe you wanted to shut the island down, you had your say, and that was that.<br><br>Wolfie! Sakkano, you’ve been a good Admin there, I hardly believe you wanted to shut the island down, you had your say, and that was that.

Wolfie!

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By: Wolfie Rankin /2008/05/07/the-abc-in-second-life-are-the-monkeys-running-the-zoo/comment-page-1/#comment-94032 Wolfie Rankin Wed, 21 May 2008 15:47:50 +0000 /?p=1127#comment-94032 Sakkano, you've been a good Admin there, I hardly believe you wanted to shut the island down, you had your say, and that was that. Wolfie! Sakkano, you’ve been a good Admin there, I hardly believe you wanted to shut the island down, you had your say, and that was that.

Wolfie!

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By: Sakkano Imako /2008/05/07/the-abc-in-second-life-are-the-monkeys-running-the-zoo/comment-page-1/#comment-136018 Sakkano Imako Tue, 20 May 2008 19:29:55 +0000 /?p=1127#comment-136018 Okat, I did hear myself from one representative from ABC on teh matter. Of course, what I heard was not anythign appreciative.. and good reason I guess.<br><br>My words, they seem to have been confused with the traditional Australian view of the ABC; the punching bag. According to the representative, what I said looks like I am anti-art and against the ABC. Also, I was told that I am being too serious.<br><br>I was also told that ABC is an experimental place. Of course, I find this odd, because I didn't see or experience that kind of atmosphere. The biggest problem facing the ABC Island is apparently, a lack of communication. Additionally, I was told that the art galleries were given permission by said representative, though I can't help but wonder, if the galleries had full clearance on the corporate side, would the issue of closing them down due to copyright have ended up being what killed it?<br><br>I think I should most definitely make it clear that I am no against the ABC, I am not for it's permanent closure. I am for putting ego aside. I am for teamwork. And I am for a serious evaluation of the situations.<br><br>Sometimes someone has to be serious for others to have fun. Okat, I did hear myself from one representative from ABC on teh matter. Of course, what I heard was not anythign appreciative.. and good reason I guess.

My words, they seem to have been confused with the traditional Australian view of the ABC; the punching bag. According to the representative, what I said looks like I am anti-art and against the ABC. Also, I was told that I am being too serious.

I was also told that ABC is an experimental place. Of course, I find this odd, because I didn’t see or experience that kind of atmosphere. The biggest problem facing the ABC Island is apparently, a lack of communication. Additionally, I was told that the art galleries were given permission by said representative, though I can’t help but wonder, if the galleries had full clearance on the corporate side, would the issue of closing them down due to copyright have ended up being what killed it?

I think I should most definitely make it clear that I am no against the ABC, I am not for it’s permanent closure. I am for putting ego aside. I am for teamwork. And I am for a serious evaluation of the situations.

Sometimes someone has to be serious for others to have fun.

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By: Sakkano Imako /2008/05/07/the-abc-in-second-life-are-the-monkeys-running-the-zoo/comment-page-1/#comment-93389 Sakkano Imako Tue, 20 May 2008 18:29:55 +0000 /?p=1127#comment-93389 Okat, I did hear myself from one representative from ABC on teh matter. Of course, what I heard was not anythign appreciative.. and good reason I guess. My words, they seem to have been confused with the traditional Australian view of the ABC; the punching bag. According to the representative, what I said looks like I am anti-art and against the ABC. Also, I was told that I am being too serious. I was also told that ABC is an experimental place. Of course, I find this odd, because I didn't see or experience that kind of atmosphere. The biggest problem facing the ABC Island is apparently, a lack of communication. Additionally, I was told that the art galleries were given permission by said representative, though I can't help but wonder, if the galleries had full clearance on the corporate side, would the issue of closing them down due to copyright have ended up being what killed it? I think I should most definitely make it clear that I am no against the ABC, I am not for it's permanent closure. I am for putting ego aside. I am for teamwork. And I am for a serious evaluation of the situations. Sometimes someone has to be serious for others to have fun. Okat, I did hear myself from one representative from ABC on teh matter. Of course, what I heard was not anythign appreciative.. and good reason I guess.

My words, they seem to have been confused with the traditional Australian view of the ABC; the punching bag. According to the representative, what I said looks like I am anti-art and against the ABC. Also, I was told that I am being too serious.

I was also told that ABC is an experimental place. Of course, I find this odd, because I didn’t see or experience that kind of atmosphere. The biggest problem facing the ABC Island is apparently, a lack of communication. Additionally, I was told that the art galleries were given permission by said representative, though I can’t help but wonder, if the galleries had full clearance on the corporate side, would the issue of closing them down due to copyright have ended up being what killed it?

I think I should most definitely make it clear that I am no against the ABC, I am not for it’s permanent closure. I am for putting ego aside. I am for teamwork. And I am for a serious evaluation of the situations.

Sometimes someone has to be serious for others to have fun.

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By: Wolfie Rankin /2008/05/07/the-abc-in-second-life-are-the-monkeys-running-the-zoo/comment-page-1/#comment-136017 Wolfie Rankin Sat, 17 May 2008 09:48:34 +0000 /?p=1127#comment-136017 I think at the time ABC didn't really have anyone that they could call to host programs in-world, things may have changed.<br><br>I did offer to Lise that if she was stuck, to give me a call and I'd do my best as long as I had something to help me, a question sheet or a guide of some type... especially if I didn't know the subject very well.<br><br>What I'd like to see is ABC with a stable of in-world presenters who know Art, Music, Politics, Sports, Gardening, Wildlife etc.<br><br>Perhaps that's an idea, maybe they need to scout for in-world talent, but they would be best to pay these people for their trouble, and Lindens would be acceptable I think.<br><br>One program each night would be wonderful, if they could pull that off, and I believe they could, then there'd be a major turnaround for the Island.<br><br>Voice is indeed a problem, I'd love to use it with Rockit, but it wouldn't work.<br>I'm dealing with people who I may not have met before, and so it would be extremely difficult to place a name to a voice and credit the right person with an answer... and I'd lose chat history, which has saved me many times.<br><br>I believe I know the presenter you mean.<br>Eva and I have offered to give new ABC folk a little training and to help them with their looks before they do what they do, but unfortunately not everybody has the time to sit and play, and that is some of the problem.<br><br>True, there's a lot of advice out there, but filtering out the "noise" is very difficult, especially when you're still fairly new... ok sure, they've been here a year, but you know how it's been as well as I do.<br><br>I think we're all frustrated with the island in some way, but I still have a feeling that things will turn out ok.<br><br>One of our frustrations is that although we don't mind being volunteers, and here's me as an ex-volunteer at the moment, there was nobody taking charge as a leader, Sure Abi and Lise were available by e-mail, but we really need someone in-world who we respect and trust, and there's nobody who fits the bill.<br><br>Wolfie! I think at the time ABC didn’t really have anyone that they could call to host programs in-world, things may have changed.

I did offer to Lise that if she was stuck, to give me a call and I’d do my best as long as I had something to help me, a question sheet or a guide of some type… especially if I didn’t know the subject very well.

What I’d like to see is ABC with a stable of in-world presenters who know Art, Music, Politics, Sports, Gardening, Wildlife etc.

Perhaps that’s an idea, maybe they need to scout for in-world talent, but they would be best to pay these people for their trouble, and Lindens would be acceptable I think.

One program each night would be wonderful, if they could pull that off, and I believe they could, then there’d be a major turnaround for the Island.

Voice is indeed a problem, I’d love to use it with Rockit, but it wouldn’t work.
I’m dealing with people who I may not have met before, and so it would be extremely difficult to place a name to a voice and credit the right person with an answer… and I’d lose chat history, which has saved me many times.

I believe I know the presenter you mean.
Eva and I have offered to give new ABC folk a little training and to help them with their looks before they do what they do, but unfortunately not everybody has the time to sit and play, and that is some of the problem.

True, there’s a lot of advice out there, but filtering out the “noise” is very difficult, especially when you’re still fairly new… ok sure, they’ve been here a year, but you know how it’s been as well as I do.

I think we’re all frustrated with the island in some way, but I still have a feeling that things will turn out ok.

One of our frustrations is that although we don’t mind being volunteers, and here’s me as an ex-volunteer at the moment, there was nobody taking charge as a leader, Sure Abi and Lise were available by e-mail, but we really need someone in-world who we respect and trust, and there’s nobody who fits the bill.

Wolfie!

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By: Paisley Beebe /2008/05/07/the-abc-in-second-life-are-the-monkeys-running-the-zoo/comment-page-1/#comment-136016 Paisley Beebe Fri, 16 May 2008 11:09:53 +0000 /?p=1127#comment-136016 Hi Wolfie thanks for that, I know you don't work for the ABC but you work with them I think....My point got a bit lost, yes its all pioneering ect..but there are many many people in SL involved in media now, that the ABC could actually learn from and I don't mean, just SLCN.TV staff ect..The ABC do not have to come in and reinvent the wheel..And I was not reffering to the professional presenters that I thought were bad, the presenter I was reffering to had newbie hair skin and clothes, and spoke to the audience on camera with all sort of instructions ect like a school marm..she just wasn't professional at all or even a good amature...you can't go on SL in any sort of representative capacity like that, and talk to the audience like a school assembly on camera...(I won't mention any names )....As a Presenter you also should know about SL etiquette and standards ... A lot of other companies in SL they use a consultant when they come in so they don't have to start from scratch...and sound issues are the bane of our SL broadcasting life! beleive me..anyhow its all mute as they aren't doing those shows anymore the idea was great! but they should have got some advice there's plenty around...<br>Paisley Hi Wolfie thanks for that, I know you don’t work for the ABC but you work with them I think….My point got a bit lost, yes its all pioneering ect..but there are many many people in SL involved in media now, that the ABC could actually learn from and I don’t mean, just SLCN.TV staff ect..The ABC do not have to come in and reinvent the wheel..And I was not reffering to the professional presenters that I thought were bad, the presenter I was reffering to had newbie hair skin and clothes, and spoke to the audience on camera with all sort of instructions ect like a school marm..she just wasn’t professional at all or even a good amature…you can’t go on SL in any sort of representative capacity like that, and talk to the audience like a school assembly on camera…(I won’t mention any names )….As a Presenter you also should know about SL etiquette and standards … A lot of other companies in SL they use a consultant when they come in so they don’t have to start from scratch…and sound issues are the bane of our SL broadcasting life! beleive me..anyhow its all mute as they aren’t doing those shows anymore the idea was great! but they should have got some advice there’s plenty around…
Paisley

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By: Wolfie Rankin /2008/05/07/the-abc-in-second-life-are-the-monkeys-running-the-zoo/comment-page-1/#comment-136015 Wolfie Rankin Thu, 15 May 2008 03:59:42 +0000 /?p=1127#comment-136015 "Equipping itself to deal" is the right action to take.<br><br>The record industry hasn't coped well with the sudden change in direction, people who formerly bought CDs, suddenly downloading mp3s.<br><br>People are downloading movies and TV programs right now.<br>and perhaps the thing stopping more people doing so comes down to speed limits and costs, particularly in Australia where we are struggling in that department.<br><br>It's going to cause a problem for the television industry soon.<br><br>People won't wait for their favourite show, they'll download it and watch it when they have time.<br><br>Just like people don't care that MP3s don't sound nearly as good as CDs do, they also won't care if the show is in High Definition or not, many will be satisfied to watch the program on a low definition portable device.<br><br>TV Networks are going to be quite worried, as expected, so they will try Secondlife and other internet ventures.<br><br>A few weeks ago on Media Watch, there was a story about how newspapers are starting to feel the pinch, because younger readers are happier reading their news online rather than buying a newspaper.<br><br>And people would rather buy and sell via pages such as e-bay, than get an expensive classified in the papers.<br><br>It will be interesting to see how the music, movie and media [Triple M?] industries cope with the new age.<br><br>Wolfie! “Equipping itself to deal” is the right action to take.

The record industry hasn’t coped well with the sudden change in direction, people who formerly bought CDs, suddenly downloading mp3s.

People are downloading movies and TV programs right now.
and perhaps the thing stopping more people doing so comes down to speed limits and costs, particularly in Australia where we are struggling in that department.

It’s going to cause a problem for the television industry soon.

People won’t wait for their favourite show, they’ll download it and watch it when they have time.

Just like people don’t care that MP3s don’t sound nearly as good as CDs do, they also won’t care if the show is in High Definition or not, many will be satisfied to watch the program on a low definition portable device.

TV Networks are going to be quite worried, as expected, so they will try Secondlife and other internet ventures.

A few weeks ago on Media Watch, there was a story about how newspapers are starting to feel the pinch, because younger readers are happier reading their news online rather than buying a newspaper.

And people would rather buy and sell via pages such as e-bay, than get an expensive classified in the papers.

It will be interesting to see how the music, movie and media [Triple M?] industries cope with the new age.

Wolfie!

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By: Wolfie Rankin /2008/05/07/the-abc-in-second-life-are-the-monkeys-running-the-zoo/comment-page-1/#comment-91132 Wolfie Rankin Thu, 15 May 2008 02:59:42 +0000 /?p=1127#comment-91132 "Equipping itself to deal" is the right action to take. The record industry hasn't coped well with the sudden change in direction, people who formerly bought CDs, suddenly downloading mp3s. People are downloading movies and TV programs right now. and perhaps the thing stopping more people doing so comes down to speed limits and costs, particularly in Australia where we are struggling in that department. It's going to cause a problem for the television industry soon. People won't wait for their favourite show, they'll download it and watch it when they have time. Just like people don't care that MP3s don't sound nearly as good as CDs do, they also won't care if the show is in High Definition or not, many will be satisfied to watch the program on a low definition portable device. TV Networks are going to be quite worried, as expected, so they will try Secondlife and other internet ventures. A few weeks ago on Media Watch, there was a story about how newspapers are starting to feel the pinch, because younger readers are happier reading their news online rather than buying a newspaper. And people would rather buy and sell via pages such as e-bay, than get an expensive classified in the papers. It will be interesting to see how the music, movie and media [Triple M?] industries cope with the new age. Wolfie! “Equipping itself to deal” is the right action to take.

The record industry hasn’t coped well with the sudden change in direction, people who formerly bought CDs, suddenly downloading mp3s.

People are downloading movies and TV programs right now.
and perhaps the thing stopping more people doing so comes down to speed limits and costs, particularly in Australia where we are struggling in that department.

It’s going to cause a problem for the television industry soon.

People won’t wait for their favourite show, they’ll download it and watch it when they have time.

Just like people don’t care that MP3s don’t sound nearly as good as CDs do, they also won’t care if the show is in High Definition or not, many will be satisfied to watch the program on a low definition portable device.

TV Networks are going to be quite worried, as expected, so they will try Secondlife and other internet ventures.

A few weeks ago on Media Watch, there was a story about how newspapers are starting to feel the pinch, because younger readers are happier reading their news online rather than buying a newspaper.

And people would rather buy and sell via pages such as e-bay, than get an expensive classified in the papers.

It will be interesting to see how the music, movie and media [Triple M?] industries cope with the new age.

Wolfie!

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By: teddlesruss Vollmar /2008/05/07/the-abc-in-second-life-are-the-monkeys-running-the-zoo/comment-page-1/#comment-136014 teddlesruss Vollmar Wed, 14 May 2008 14:17:09 +0000 /?p=1127#comment-136014 I have to agree with Wolfie - SL is a VERY VERY pioneering frontier town compared to the VR megagrids that are to come, and the ways to access them won't always be PC and laptop machines. But it's what we have, here and now.<br><br>And yes - there have been forgettable events but also memorable ones, in ABC's in world history. Right now, the people who are learning to deal with this new medium are equipping themselves for the kinds of media that are coming in future. On that basis, the ABC is - albeit slowly and shakily - equipping itself to deal. But they need to take a LOT more of their cues from in-world rather than the rarified (means thin, sparse) intelligentsia of management.<br><br>Actually - they would do well to read articles like this one and the comments streams... %) <br><br>(just getting my 13c worth in for the day...) I have to agree with Wolfie – SL is a VERY VERY pioneering frontier town compared to the VR megagrids that are to come, and the ways to access them won’t always be PC and laptop machines. But it’s what we have, here and now.

And yes – there have been forgettable events but also memorable ones, in ABC’s in world history. Right now, the people who are learning to deal with this new medium are equipping themselves for the kinds of media that are coming in future. On that basis, the ABC is – albeit slowly and shakily – equipping itself to deal. But they need to take a LOT more of their cues from in-world rather than the rarified (means thin, sparse) intelligentsia of management.

Actually – they would do well to read articles like this one and the comments streams… %)

(just getting my 13c worth in for the day…)

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By: Wolfie Rankin /2008/05/07/the-abc-in-second-life-are-the-monkeys-running-the-zoo/comment-page-1/#comment-136013 Wolfie Rankin Wed, 14 May 2008 13:55:57 +0000 /?p=1127#comment-136013 Well there's no doubt that it's experimental, we know secondlife is far from perfect. but it has got loads better even in the bit over a year since I've been here...<br><br>Early on, most graphics were grey and never rezzed up at all, they've improved that no end, we have windlight... which is still "iffy" on some computers... and voice came along later. <br><br>Secondlife will improve.<br><br>Perhaps there will come a day soon when an in world program could be watched by many, without the tragic audio dropouts we experienced with the CSIRO Seminars.<br><br>I suppose watching a screen is ok for some, but I see these events as live, where people can come and interact. otherwise you may as well just watch telly.<br><br>Intimate audiences aren't a bad thing.<br><br>It's important to note that ABC didn't create the footage for the CSIRO Seminars,<br>that was done by an in-world company, who I can't really say a bad word against simply because it's just not that easy to do, secondlife is a clumsy sort of medium, and SLCN did a great job despite Secondlifes problems.<br><br>One of the presenters, Dr James Bradfield Moody, is from The New Inventors, so is a professional, but I assume that he felt a bit awkward in-world.<br><br>It's a bit hard to take someone, shove them into this environment and get them to do a show... first time is always going to be the worst, if he'd come on and done a few more shows, he would have been fine.<br><br>The first Rockit really sucked.<br>And I had months of in-world experience already.<br><br>I would think that most first time shows were probably a bit crappy, but we got over it, and we keep doing it because there are people who despite all Secondlifes glitches, still like what we provide and ask for more.<br><br>Don't forget that all media was utterly awful when it first began, we forget that because we live in the digital age where pictures and sounds are perfect [sorta].<br><br>Radios needed huge antennas, and used little headphones... only one person at a time could listen to it, while they hunched over this huge ugly thing.<br><br>The pictures on early black and white TVs were fuzzy, ghosty and would roll like mad... people would twiddle nobs, play with the rabbit ears antennas and generally swear and curse as they whacked or kicked the box.<br><br>My Mother told me stories that TV repair vans were always going up and down the streets, something not seen these days, valves are no longer used.<br><br>We'll tell our grandkids about our computers when we're old, as they toy with their fully interactive holographic displays which they can hold in one hand, and they'll think we were mad... but we are the pioneers, all of us, including ABC.<br><br>Isn't that something?<br><br>Paisley, I've had many people think that I was already employed by Aunty, quite a few were shocked when I said that wasn't so, and it's true, I'm not.<br><br>Whether I could do any better than I do now if employed, I'm not sure.<br><br>Wolfie! Well there’s no doubt that it’s experimental, we know secondlife is far from perfect. but it has got loads better even in the bit over a year since I’ve been here…

Early on, most graphics were grey and never rezzed up at all, they’ve improved that no end, we have windlight… which is still “iffy” on some computers… and voice came along later.

Secondlife will improve.

Perhaps there will come a day soon when an in world program could be watched by many, without the tragic audio dropouts we experienced with the CSIRO Seminars.

I suppose watching a screen is ok for some, but I see these events as live, where people can come and interact. otherwise you may as well just watch telly.

Intimate audiences aren’t a bad thing.

It’s important to note that ABC didn’t create the footage for the CSIRO Seminars,
that was done by an in-world company, who I can’t really say a bad word against simply because it’s just not that easy to do, secondlife is a clumsy sort of medium, and SLCN did a great job despite Secondlifes problems.

One of the presenters, Dr James Bradfield Moody, is from The New Inventors, so is a professional, but I assume that he felt a bit awkward in-world.

It’s a bit hard to take someone, shove them into this environment and get them to do a show… first time is always going to be the worst, if he’d come on and done a few more shows, he would have been fine.

The first Rockit really sucked.
And I had months of in-world experience already.

I would think that most first time shows were probably a bit crappy, but we got over it, and we keep doing it because there are people who despite all Secondlifes glitches, still like what we provide and ask for more.

Don’t forget that all media was utterly awful when it first began, we forget that because we live in the digital age where pictures and sounds are perfect [sorta].

Radios needed huge antennas, and used little headphones… only one person at a time could listen to it, while they hunched over this huge ugly thing.

The pictures on early black and white TVs were fuzzy, ghosty and would roll like mad… people would twiddle nobs, play with the rabbit ears antennas and generally swear and curse as they whacked or kicked the box.

My Mother told me stories that TV repair vans were always going up and down the streets, something not seen these days, valves are no longer used.

We’ll tell our grandkids about our computers when we’re old, as they toy with their fully interactive holographic displays which they can hold in one hand, and they’ll think we were mad… but we are the pioneers, all of us, including ABC.

Isn’t that something?

Paisley, I’ve had many people think that I was already employed by Aunty, quite a few were shocked when I said that wasn’t so, and it’s true, I’m not.

Whether I could do any better than I do now if employed, I’m not sure.

Wolfie!

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By: teddlesruss Vollmar /2008/05/07/the-abc-in-second-life-are-the-monkeys-running-the-zoo/comment-page-1/#comment-90874 teddlesruss Vollmar Wed, 14 May 2008 13:17:09 +0000 /?p=1127#comment-90874 I have to agree with Wolfie - SL is a VERY VERY pioneering frontier town compared to the VR megagrids that are to come, and the ways to access them won't always be PC and laptop machines. But it's what we have, here and now. And yes - there have been forgettable events but also memorable ones, in ABC's in world history. Right now, the people who are learning to deal with this new medium are equipping themselves for the kinds of media that are coming in future. On that basis, the ABC is - albeit slowly and shakily - equipping itself to deal. But they need to take a LOT more of their cues from in-world rather than the rarified (means thin, sparse) intelligentsia of management. Actually - they would do well to read articles like this one and the comments streams... %) (just getting my 13c worth in for the day...) I have to agree with Wolfie – SL is a VERY VERY pioneering frontier town compared to the VR megagrids that are to come, and the ways to access them won’t always be PC and laptop machines. But it’s what we have, here and now.

And yes – there have been forgettable events but also memorable ones, in ABC’s in world history. Right now, the people who are learning to deal with this new medium are equipping themselves for the kinds of media that are coming in future. On that basis, the ABC is – albeit slowly and shakily – equipping itself to deal. But they need to take a LOT more of their cues from in-world rather than the rarified (means thin, sparse) intelligentsia of management.

Actually – they would do well to read articles like this one and the comments streams… %)

(just getting my 13c worth in for the day…)

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By: Paisley Beebe /2008/05/07/the-abc-in-second-life-are-the-monkeys-running-the-zoo/comment-page-1/#comment-90719 Paisley Beebe Wed, 14 May 2008 00:21:37 +0000 /?p=1127#comment-90719 Question...Wolfie, why are ABC in SL? Toe in the water? some excess funding came through to use on a wacky idea? One day when the aussie population in SL is comparable to perhaps a local radio station reach..perhaps its worth marketing to them...right now with only 14,000 aussies many of whom are alts, and not regular users...its not going to work all that well. I was told by Lise in my interview with her, it was toe in the water, test it out, and yes they wanted to extend their reach internationally, problem is, due to their restrictions and legal boundaries, they can't use any of the things allready set up in SL to bring the population to the island, ie allready established acts ect..or bring their content to the international population through streaming... I saw the footage of the talks that were held on the island with CSIRO ect..., and the presentation was woeful....for a National Broadcaster to present a show like like that, either use professional presenters who are in SL allready who know how to present in SL, or use your professional ABC presenters to do it, and get them trained up in how to present in SL, don't to it half arsed...it really was very amateur.. I love the ABC, Im an ABC fan but I nearly curled up under my chair watching those presentations, so embarrassing....the guests were fine, but SL residents, at least long term ones, have certain standards they expect from people who put themselves up in the public eye, on SL, they can spot a newbie part time SL avi a mile away, who doesn't know the lingo, doesn't know how SL culture works. It seems to me that ABC arn't really immersing themselves enough, I know they have a great resource in Wolfie and some others that are fully immersed, are they actually listening? Its a waste of our Tax dollars not to do it properly and do your homework. You cannot come into a small town and plonk yourself down put up a shingle and say we are here for you, we don't speak your language and we don't care, now why arn't you flocking to our business we know what you want! Seems like someone threw some money at the Dept that Lise is running and its all a bit of a lark...ABC do your homework know the Law, and do some training, SL is not RL! Paisley www.slcn.tv/tonight-live-paisley-beebe Question…Wolfie, why are ABC in SL? Toe in the water? some excess funding came through to use on a wacky idea?

One day when the aussie population in SL is comparable to perhaps a local radio station reach..perhaps its worth marketing to them…right now with only 14,000 aussies many of whom are alts, and not regular users…its not going to work all that well.

I was told by Lise in my interview with her, it was toe in the water, test it out, and yes they wanted to extend their reach internationally, problem is, due to their restrictions and legal boundaries, they can’t use any of the things allready set up in SL to bring the population to the island, ie allready established acts ect..or bring their content to the international population through streaming…

I saw the footage of the talks that were held on the island with CSIRO ect…, and the presentation was woeful….for a National Broadcaster to present a show like like that, either use professional presenters who are in SL allready who know how to present in SL, or use your professional ABC presenters to do it, and get them trained up in how to present in SL, don’t to it half arsed…it really was very amateur.. I love the ABC, Im an ABC fan but I nearly curled up under my chair watching those presentations, so embarrassing….the guests were fine, but SL residents, at least long term ones, have certain standards they expect from people who put themselves up in the public eye, on SL, they can spot a newbie part time SL avi a mile away, who doesn’t know the lingo, doesn’t know how SL culture works. It seems to me that ABC arn’t really immersing themselves enough, I know they have a great resource in Wolfie and some others that are fully immersed, are they actually listening? Its a waste of our Tax dollars not to do it properly and do your homework. You cannot come into a small town and plonk yourself down put up a shingle and say we are here for you, we don’t speak your language and we don’t care, now why arn’t you flocking to our business we know what you want!

Seems like someone threw some money at the Dept that Lise is running and its all a bit of a lark…ABC do your homework know the Law, and do some training, SL is not RL!
Paisley
http://www.slcn.tv/tonight-live-paisley-beebe

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