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	<title>Comments on: Doing Business in Second Life by Skribe Forti</title>
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		<title>By: Por qué tener presencia en SL &#171; SecondLife &#38; Vindi</title>
		<link>http://www.metaversejournal.com/2007/05/28/doing-business-in-second-life-by-skribe-forti/comment-page-1/#comment-9328</link>
		<dc:creator>Por qué tener presencia en SL &#171; SecondLife &#38; Vindi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 19:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Por qué tener presencia en&#160;SL Junio 15, 2007 at 9:35 pm &#124; In SecondLife, Economy &amp; Business, Uncategorized &#124;  Aquí nos lo explica, en un vídeo en inglés, una empresa que se llama Inside This World que provee varios servicios en SL; lo encontré gracias al portal australiano, Australia&#8217;s SecondLIfe News Source. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Por qué tener presencia en&nbsp;SL Junio 15, 2007 at 9:35 pm | In SecondLife, Economy &amp; Business, Uncategorized |  Aquí nos lo explica, en un vídeo en inglés, una empresa que se llama Inside This World que provee varios servicios en SL; lo encontré gracias al portal australiano, Australia&#8217;s SecondLIfe News Source. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: skribe Forti</title>
		<link>http://www.metaversejournal.com/2007/05/28/doing-business-in-second-life-by-skribe-forti/comment-page-1/#comment-135136</link>
		<dc:creator>skribe Forti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 11:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually the builder is quite talented, but lacks a portfolio.  It&#039;s the old chicken and egg thing.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the video industry it&#039;s common to see backyard operators doing jobs for ridiculously low prices.  One guy I know does rl weddings for $A200.  Given the amount of time he takes that&#039;s well below the minimum hourly rate.  But he gets work because most of his clients don&#039;t care about the quality.  For some customers price is the only thing that counts.  They just want a video.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Same thing can apply in sl.  Some people just want a building...any building...as long as it doesn&#039;t look bad it&#039;s fine.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course in the case that Bret mentioned I know the people involved and the clients wanted more than they could afford.  They have pretentions and very little else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually the builder is quite talented, but lacks a portfolio.  It&#8217;s the old chicken and egg thing.  </p>
<p>In the video industry it&#8217;s common to see backyard operators doing jobs for ridiculously low prices.  One guy I know does rl weddings for $A200.  Given the amount of time he takes that&#8217;s well below the minimum hourly rate.  But he gets work because most of his clients don&#8217;t care about the quality.  For some customers price is the only thing that counts.  They just want a video.  </p>
<p>Same thing can apply in sl.  Some people just want a building&#8230;any building&#8230;as long as it doesn&#8217;t look bad it&#8217;s fine.  </p>
<p>Of course in the case that Bret mentioned I know the people involved and the clients wanted more than they could afford.  They have pretentions and very little else.</p>
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		<title>By: skribe Forti</title>
		<link>http://www.metaversejournal.com/2007/05/28/doing-business-in-second-life-by-skribe-forti/comment-page-1/#comment-5909</link>
		<dc:creator>skribe Forti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 10:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually the builder is quite talented, but lacks a portfolio.  It&#039;s the old chicken and egg thing.  

In the video industry it&#039;s common to see backyard operators doing jobs for ridiculously low prices.  One guy I know does rl weddings for $A200.  Given the amount of time he takes that&#039;s well below the minimum hourly rate.  But he gets work because most of his clients don&#039;t care about the quality.  For some customers price is the only thing that counts.  They just want a video.  

Same thing can apply in sl.  Some people just want a building...any building...as long as it doesn&#039;t look bad it&#039;s fine.  

Of course in the case that Bret mentioned I know the people involved and the clients wanted more than they could afford.  They have pretentions and very little else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually the builder is quite talented, but lacks a portfolio.  It&#8217;s the old chicken and egg thing.  </p>
<p>In the video industry it&#8217;s common to see backyard operators doing jobs for ridiculously low prices.  One guy I know does rl weddings for $A200.  Given the amount of time he takes that&#8217;s well below the minimum hourly rate.  But he gets work because most of his clients don&#8217;t care about the quality.  For some customers price is the only thing that counts.  They just want a video.  </p>
<p>Same thing can apply in sl.  Some people just want a building&#8230;any building&#8230;as long as it doesn&#8217;t look bad it&#8217;s fine.  </p>
<p>Of course in the case that Bret mentioned I know the people involved and the clients wanted more than they could afford.  They have pretentions and very little else.</p>
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		<title>By: Lowell</title>
		<link>http://www.metaversejournal.com/2007/05/28/doing-business-in-second-life-by-skribe-forti/comment-page-1/#comment-135135</link>
		<dc:creator>Lowell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 09:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Skribe and Bret,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks to you both for your follow-up comments. The anecdote about the $50 000 to $1000 comparison is a good one from viewpoint of naivete on part of the customer i.e. why would you think you&#039;d get a good product at such an enormous reduction.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Good luck with it all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Skribe and Bret,</p>
<p>Thanks to you both for your follow-up comments. The anecdote about the $50 000 to $1000 comparison is a good one from viewpoint of naivete on part of the customer i.e. why would you think you&#8217;d get a good product at such an enormous reduction.</p>
<p>Good luck with it all.</p>
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		<title>By: bret treasure</title>
		<link>http://www.metaversejournal.com/2007/05/28/doing-business-in-second-life-by-skribe-forti/comment-page-1/#comment-135134</link>
		<dc:creator>bret treasure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 09:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats to Skribe on very slick work.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m the voice on the machinima. Re the $40,000; it represents what we would charge, not the cheapest possible cost. We recently quoted someone US$50,000 for a build and they found someone else to do it for $1,000! Was it a quality build? Erm, it&#039;s not finished and the builder has walked off following disputes. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I can do a web page for no cost. Is that what a reputable business will want? Probably they would like experienced advice, quality graphics and a solid back end. The same price/quality matrix exists in Second Life as in other areas. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We are at the quality end and use top talent. We also work on the strategic side; if your approach is &quot;I know what I want&quot;, you might just want a range of builders to quote. If you want some quality input on how to proceed, that&#039;s another story and we do charge money for that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In world I can be contacted as Biscuit Carroll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats to Skribe on very slick work.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m the voice on the machinima. Re the $40,000; it represents what we would charge, not the cheapest possible cost. We recently quoted someone US$50,000 for a build and they found someone else to do it for $1,000! Was it a quality build? Erm, it&#8217;s not finished and the builder has walked off following disputes. </p>
<p>I can do a web page for no cost. Is that what a reputable business will want? Probably they would like experienced advice, quality graphics and a solid back end. The same price/quality matrix exists in Second Life as in other areas. </p>
<p>We are at the quality end and use top talent. We also work on the strategic side; if your approach is &#8220;I know what I want&#8221;, you might just want a range of builders to quote. If you want some quality input on how to proceed, that&#8217;s another story and we do charge money for that.</p>
<p>In world I can be contacted as Biscuit Carroll.</p>
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		<title>By: skribe Forti</title>
		<link>http://www.metaversejournal.com/2007/05/28/doing-business-in-second-life-by-skribe-forti/comment-page-1/#comment-135133</link>
		<dc:creator>skribe Forti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 09:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually the figure quoted is $20k to $40k all up.  And you really need to have a group hug.  It&#039;s a major selling point in the real world.  I hear that places like Google have GroupHug lessons and that if you fail them you can&#039;t work there =).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ta for the kudos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually the figure quoted is $20k to $40k all up.  And you really need to have a group hug.  It&#8217;s a major selling point in the real world.  I hear that places like Google have GroupHug lessons and that if you fail them you can&#8217;t work there =).</p>
<p>Ta for the kudos.</p>
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		<title>By: Lowell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lowell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 08:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Skribe and Bret,

Thanks to you both for your follow-up comments. The anecdote about the $50 000 to $1000 comparison is a good one from viewpoint of naivete on part of the customer i.e. why would you think you&#039;d get a good product at such an enormous reduction.

Good luck with it all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Skribe and Bret,</p>
<p>Thanks to you both for your follow-up comments. The anecdote about the $50 000 to $1000 comparison is a good one from viewpoint of naivete on part of the customer i.e. why would you think you&#8217;d get a good product at such an enormous reduction.</p>
<p>Good luck with it all.</p>
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		<title>By: bret treasure</title>
		<link>http://www.metaversejournal.com/2007/05/28/doing-business-in-second-life-by-skribe-forti/comment-page-1/#comment-5905</link>
		<dc:creator>bret treasure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 08:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats to Skribe on very slick work.

I&#039;m the voice on the machinima. Re the $40,000; it represents what we would charge, not the cheapest possible cost. We recently quoted someone US$50,000 for a build and they found someone else to do it for $1,000! Was it a quality build? Erm, it&#039;s not finished and the builder has walked off following disputes. 

I can do a web page for no cost. Is that what a reputable business will want? Probably they would like experienced advice, quality graphics and a solid back end. The same price/quality matrix exists in Second Life as in other areas. 

We are at the quality end and use top talent. We also work on the strategic side; if your approach is &quot;I know what I want&quot;, you might just want a range of builders to quote. If you want some quality input on how to proceed, that&#039;s another story and we do charge money for that.

In world I can be contacted as Biscuit Carroll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats to Skribe on very slick work.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m the voice on the machinima. Re the $40,000; it represents what we would charge, not the cheapest possible cost. We recently quoted someone US$50,000 for a build and they found someone else to do it for $1,000! Was it a quality build? Erm, it&#8217;s not finished and the builder has walked off following disputes. </p>
<p>I can do a web page for no cost. Is that what a reputable business will want? Probably they would like experienced advice, quality graphics and a solid back end. The same price/quality matrix exists in Second Life as in other areas. </p>
<p>We are at the quality end and use top talent. We also work on the strategic side; if your approach is &#8220;I know what I want&#8221;, you might just want a range of builders to quote. If you want some quality input on how to proceed, that&#8217;s another story and we do charge money for that.</p>
<p>In world I can be contacted as Biscuit Carroll.</p>
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		<title>By: skribe Forti</title>
		<link>http://www.metaversejournal.com/2007/05/28/doing-business-in-second-life-by-skribe-forti/comment-page-1/#comment-5904</link>
		<dc:creator>skribe Forti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 08:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually the figure quoted is $20k to $40k all up.  And you really need to have a group hug.  It&#039;s a major selling point in the real world.  I hear that places like Google have GroupHug lessons and that if you fail them you can&#039;t work there =).

Ta for the kudos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually the figure quoted is $20k to $40k all up.  And you really need to have a group hug.  It&#8217;s a major selling point in the real world.  I hear that places like Google have GroupHug lessons and that if you fail them you can&#8217;t work there =).</p>
<p>Ta for the kudos.</p>
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