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		<title>By: A year ago on The Metaverse Journal : The Metaverse Journal - Australia&#8217;s Virtual World News Service</title>
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		<dc:creator>A year ago on The Metaverse Journal : The Metaverse Journal - Australia&#8217;s Virtual World News Service</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 23:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for visiting!We interviewed one of Australia&#8217;s most controversial Second Life residents, LukeConnell Vandeverre, who runs the World Stock Exchange (which has now been out of action for close to three [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sam Hook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Hook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luke your a scam dude, it&#039;s just one big messy lie... people trusted you... well checkout how much people lost there L$ on you... 80% portofolio losses and more on HCL hmmm and other stocks owned by you ... how do you think that makes people feel about it &amp; you ha? you wasting our money and time with a big fat smile on your face I know, having your 15 minutes of fame ... well get a grip sucker !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luke your a scam dude, it&#8217;s just one big messy lie&#8230; people trusted you&#8230; well checkout how much people lost there L$ on you&#8230; 80% portofolio losses and more on HCL hmmm and other stocks owned by you &#8230; how do you think that makes people feel about it &amp; you ha? you wasting our money and time with a big fat smile on your face I know, having your 15 minutes of fame &#8230; well get a grip sucker !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Hook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Hook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 11:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luke your a scam dude, it&#039;s just one big messy lie... people trusted you... well checkout how much people lost there L$ on you... 80% portofolio losses and more on HCL hmmm and other stocks owned by you ... how do you think that makes people feel about it &amp; you ha? you wasting our money and time with a big fat smile on your face I know, having your 15 minutes of fame ... well get a grip sucker !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luke your a scam dude, it&#8217;s just one big messy lie&#8230; people trusted you&#8230; well checkout how much people lost there L$ on you&#8230; 80% portofolio losses and more on HCL hmmm and other stocks owned by you &#8230; how do you think that makes people feel about it &amp; you ha? you wasting our money and time with a big fat smile on your face I know, having your 15 minutes of fame &#8230; well get a grip sucker !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Interview Two - LukeConnell Vandeverre, World Stock Exchange</title>
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		<dc:creator>Interview Two - LukeConnell Vandeverre, World Stock Exchange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 05:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] April this year we completed our first interview with WSE CEO, LukeConnell Vandeverre. The response to that interview was large and at time [...]</description>
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		<title>By: LukeConnell Vandeverre - postscript</title>
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		<dc:creator>LukeConnell Vandeverre - postscript</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 12:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] response to our interview with Hope Capital&#8217;s LukeConnell Vandeverre has been significant and on the whole very [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] response to our interview with Hope Capital&#8217;s LukeConnell Vandeverre has been significant and on the whole very [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SecondLife - How To Make Money In Second Life &#187; Business ethics and legislation in Second Life. Is it necessary, inevitable, welcome. Just Askin?</title>
		<link>http://www.metaversejournal.com/2007/04/20/interview-lukeconnell-vandeverre-world-stock-exchange/comment-page-1/#comment-3431</link>
		<dc:creator>SecondLife - How To Make Money In Second Life &#187; Business ethics and legislation in Second Life. Is it necessary, inevitable, welcome. Just Askin?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 05:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and similar are hard to refute, or prove, and there is currently no regulation. In fact, in an interview on sloz.info, LukeConnell Vandeverre answered a question about the risks of fraud thus: I have to stress that [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and similar are hard to refute, or prove, and there is currently no regulation. In fact, in an interview on sloz.info, LukeConnell Vandeverre answered a question about the risks of fraud thus: I have to stress that [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stavros Atlantis</title>
		<link>http://www.metaversejournal.com/2007/04/20/interview-lukeconnell-vandeverre-world-stock-exchange/comment-page-1/#comment-135996</link>
		<dc:creator>Stavros Atlantis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 00:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Intlibber,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here&#039;s is a log of the fraud, deception &amp; incompetance perpetrated by Luke Connell against HCL sharholders. Dont give me rheteric, give me answers&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;- The initial Hope Capital prospectus had $L2 million budgeted for Market setup. In the end it cost $L3.2 Million, and half of the WSE income stream. To get that income stream back Luke had to print 12.5 million shares to issue to Shaun Altman. The market crash and subsequent total melt down was entirely the fault of Luke Connell&lt;br&gt;- The initial HCL prospectus stated that World Currency Exchange shareholders were to receive 20 HCL shares for each 1 WCE held. I was a WCE shareholder, I never received my shares. Where did they go?? Who got them. I can only assume that the ended up in Luke Connells personal account. I took this matter up with Luke Connell, only to be told &quot;It&#039;s just a game&quot;. He stole USD from me and I want them back.&lt;br&gt;- The initial HCL prospectus, dated 22 December, states that Luke Connell will not sell any of his personal HCL stock for 6 months. According to the last HCL report Luke has sold 1 million shares, such a dumping of shares has significantly devalued the HCL stock, ripping off HCL IPO investors,Luke Connell has committed fraud.&lt;br&gt;- The initial HCL prosectus states that HCL was to be a company made up of 10 million shares. People invested based on this, suddenly we found out that 2.5 million shares had been issued. Who too? Why? What were the terms? Why weren&#039;t current HCL shareholders invited to invest? It turns out that Luke Connell had sold off shares significantly below market rate to a bunch of his mates. Connell finally informed the market of the terms almost 3 months after the issue. I invested in Hope Capital based on the prospectus presented to me, Why were my shareholders diluted without my asking??&lt;br&gt;- Why didn&#039;t Luke Connell take 5 minutes to do the odd check or two when companies listed?? Was he not concerned about WSE&#039;s reputation, and the damage that a fraud scandal would bring with it?? Apparently not.&lt;br&gt;- Companies listing have been trying to list at terms of say 5 million shares total, 1 million IPO. Connell then changes the IPO, WITHOUT the approval of the company owner, lists it, and suddenly they are selling 1 million&lt;br&gt;shares for 2.5 million outstanding. This is theft, fraud, deception and gods know whatever. Connell is selling that person asset far cheaper than they had applied for, without their permission. Who lists is up to the CEO, but the terms of that listing is totally up &lt;br&gt;to company owner. If Luke doesn&#039;t like the terms then he&lt;br&gt;can simply refuse to list them, but cannot change the terms of the listing without owner approval.   &lt;br&gt;- You argue that someone should be able to analyse a stock and value, that is true. I read the HCL &quot;report&quot;, what was the net profit?? Why was capital listed as income?? Why was Capex listed as a liability?? Why were tier fees, wages etc listed as liabilities. It was a nice little &quot;bank rec&quot;, but what I really wanted was a profit &amp; loss. It was 5 pages of crap, nothing more. As for Nicholas Portocarerro, and his BNT comments, he is entitled to his opinion, but if you are going to put up an argument about &quot;analysing a share&quot; could you at least give us some analysis, not opinions&lt;br&gt;- As for analysis, here&#039;s my analysis of HCL. The only people trading on the WSE are funds looking to move the market in their favour to make their portfolios looks good, and the odd resident with a couple of hundered of lindens up their sleeve. Anyone with any intelligence and proper purchasing power has sold out and left. The WSE is on track to average a mere 60 million turnover a month, thats 1.8 million in revenue. Luke Connell gave very little financial information in his report, so let&#039;s be generous and say that HCL will get 2.5 million a month in revenue. Once costs are taken out, budgeted at 60% of income, per the prospectus, that leaves HCL with a monthly profit of 1 million, 12 million a year. There are 27 million shares outstanding, that&#039;s 44c a share, currently the market is so depressed the P/E ratios are at 1. In a buoyant market P/E ratios may hit 3 (This is SL, not RL). So in current market conditions I rate HCL a 44c stock, maybe if the market ever recovers I might rate it an 80c stock. Factoring the fraud, lies, incompetance of Luke Connell, the illiquidity of the market, the lack of barriers to competition and the fact that there are people out there far more competant than Luke Connell who will blow WSE away,the damage to the HCL brand the fraud scandal did, and the fact that I will never get any say whatsoever in the running of HCL, I seriously rate HCL a 10c stock. I will not pay anymore than that, because that is what I value them at. So I suggest you stop buying,because you are buying a dog stock.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Before you cry &quot;defamation and slander&quot;, not a problem I am willing to go to court on this matter, should Mr Connell think it necessary. What is it they say about the best defence against defamation?? &quot;Prove that it&#039;s true&quot;, I can prove each and every allegation I have made, it&#039;s all written in the company prospectus&#039;s and reports. There&#039;s a good chance, with all the fraud committed, that Mr Connell will then be taken away and criminally charged.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Answers Intlibber, and dont give me rheteric crap, and dont you dare tell me that ripping people off their hard earned USD is a &quot;game&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intlibber,</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s is a log of the fraud, deception &amp; incompetance perpetrated by Luke Connell against HCL sharholders. Dont give me rheteric, give me answers</p>
<p>- The initial Hope Capital prospectus had $L2 million budgeted for Market setup. In the end it cost $L3.2 Million, and half of the WSE income stream. To get that income stream back Luke had to print 12.5 million shares to issue to Shaun Altman. The market crash and subsequent total melt down was entirely the fault of Luke Connell<br />- The initial HCL prospectus stated that World Currency Exchange shareholders were to receive 20 HCL shares for each 1 WCE held. I was a WCE shareholder, I never received my shares. Where did they go?? Who got them. I can only assume that the ended up in Luke Connells personal account. I took this matter up with Luke Connell, only to be told &#8220;It&#8217;s just a game&#8221;. He stole USD from me and I want them back.<br />- The initial HCL prospectus, dated 22 December, states that Luke Connell will not sell any of his personal HCL stock for 6 months. According to the last HCL report Luke has sold 1 million shares, such a dumping of shares has significantly devalued the HCL stock, ripping off HCL IPO investors,Luke Connell has committed fraud.<br />- The initial HCL prosectus states that HCL was to be a company made up of 10 million shares. People invested based on this, suddenly we found out that 2.5 million shares had been issued. Who too? Why? What were the terms? Why weren&#8217;t current HCL shareholders invited to invest? It turns out that Luke Connell had sold off shares significantly below market rate to a bunch of his mates. Connell finally informed the market of the terms almost 3 months after the issue. I invested in Hope Capital based on the prospectus presented to me, Why were my shareholders diluted without my asking??<br />- Why didn&#8217;t Luke Connell take 5 minutes to do the odd check or two when companies listed?? Was he not concerned about WSE&#8217;s reputation, and the damage that a fraud scandal would bring with it?? Apparently not.<br />- Companies listing have been trying to list at terms of say 5 million shares total, 1 million IPO. Connell then changes the IPO, WITHOUT the approval of the company owner, lists it, and suddenly they are selling 1 million<br />shares for 2.5 million outstanding. This is theft, fraud, deception and gods know whatever. Connell is selling that person asset far cheaper than they had applied for, without their permission. Who lists is up to the CEO, but the terms of that listing is totally up <br />to company owner. If Luke doesn&#8217;t like the terms then he<br />can simply refuse to list them, but cannot change the terms of the listing without owner approval.   <br />- You argue that someone should be able to analyse a stock and value, that is true. I read the HCL &#8220;report&#8221;, what was the net profit?? Why was capital listed as income?? Why was Capex listed as a liability?? Why were tier fees, wages etc listed as liabilities. It was a nice little &#8220;bank rec&#8221;, but what I really wanted was a profit &amp; loss. It was 5 pages of crap, nothing more. As for Nicholas Portocarerro, and his BNT comments, he is entitled to his opinion, but if you are going to put up an argument about &#8220;analysing a share&#8221; could you at least give us some analysis, not opinions<br />- As for analysis, here&#8217;s my analysis of HCL. The only people trading on the WSE are funds looking to move the market in their favour to make their portfolios looks good, and the odd resident with a couple of hundered of lindens up their sleeve. Anyone with any intelligence and proper purchasing power has sold out and left. The WSE is on track to average a mere 60 million turnover a month, thats 1.8 million in revenue. Luke Connell gave very little financial information in his report, so let&#8217;s be generous and say that HCL will get 2.5 million a month in revenue. Once costs are taken out, budgeted at 60% of income, per the prospectus, that leaves HCL with a monthly profit of 1 million, 12 million a year. There are 27 million shares outstanding, that&#8217;s 44c a share, currently the market is so depressed the P/E ratios are at 1. In a buoyant market P/E ratios may hit 3 (This is SL, not RL). So in current market conditions I rate HCL a 44c stock, maybe if the market ever recovers I might rate it an 80c stock. Factoring the fraud, lies, incompetance of Luke Connell, the illiquidity of the market, the lack of barriers to competition and the fact that there are people out there far more competant than Luke Connell who will blow WSE away,the damage to the HCL brand the fraud scandal did, and the fact that I will never get any say whatsoever in the running of HCL, I seriously rate HCL a 10c stock. I will not pay anymore than that, because that is what I value them at. So I suggest you stop buying,because you are buying a dog stock.</p>
<p>Before you cry &#8220;defamation and slander&#8221;, not a problem I am willing to go to court on this matter, should Mr Connell think it necessary. What is it they say about the best defence against defamation?? &#8220;Prove that it&#8217;s true&#8221;, I can prove each and every allegation I have made, it&#8217;s all written in the company prospectus&#8217;s and reports. There&#8217;s a good chance, with all the fraud committed, that Mr Connell will then be taken away and criminally charged.</p>
<p>Answers Intlibber, and dont give me rheteric crap, and dont you dare tell me that ripping people off their hard earned USD is a &#8220;game&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Stavros Atlantis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stavros Atlantis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 23:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Intlibber,

Here&#039;s is a log of the fraud, deception &amp; incompetance perpetrated by Luke Connell against HCL sharholders. Dont give me rheteric, give me answers

- The initial Hope Capital prospectus had $L2 million budgeted for Market setup. In the end it cost $L3.2 Million, and half of the WSE income stream. To get that income stream back Luke had to print 12.5 million shares to issue to Shaun Altman. The market crash and subsequent total melt down was entirely the fault of Luke Connell
- The initial HCL prospectus stated that World Currency Exchange shareholders were to receive 20 HCL shares for each 1 WCE held. I was a WCE shareholder, I never received my shares. Where did they go?? Who got them. I can only assume that the ended up in Luke Connells personal account. I took this matter up with Luke Connell, only to be told &quot;It&#039;s just a game&quot;. He stole USD from me and I want them back.
- The initial HCL prospectus, dated 22 December, states that Luke Connell will not sell any of his personal HCL stock for 6 months. According to the last HCL report Luke has sold 1 million shares, such a dumping of shares has significantly devalued the HCL stock, ripping off HCL IPO investors,Luke Connell has committed fraud.
- The initial HCL prosectus states that HCL was to be a company made up of 10 million shares. People invested based on this, suddenly we found out that 2.5 million shares had been issued. Who too? Why? What were the terms? Why weren&#039;t current HCL shareholders invited to invest? It turns out that Luke Connell had sold off shares significantly below market rate to a bunch of his mates. Connell finally informed the market of the terms almost 3 months after the issue. I invested in Hope Capital based on the prospectus presented to me, Why were my shareholders diluted without my asking??
- Why didn&#039;t Luke Connell take 5 minutes to do the odd check or two when companies listed?? Was he not concerned about WSE&#039;s reputation, and the damage that a fraud scandal would bring with it?? Apparently not.
- Companies listing have been trying to list at terms of say 5 million shares total, 1 million IPO. Connell then changes the IPO, WITHOUT the approval of the company owner, lists it, and suddenly they are selling 1 million
shares for 2.5 million outstanding. This is theft, fraud, deception and gods know whatever. Connell is selling that person asset far cheaper than they had applied for, without their permission. Who lists is up to the CEO, but the terms of that listing is totally up 
to company owner. If Luke doesn&#039;t like the terms then he
can simply refuse to list them, but cannot change the terms of the listing without owner approval.   
- You argue that someone should be able to analyse a stock and value, that is true. I read the HCL &quot;report&quot;, what was the net profit?? Why was capital listed as income?? Why was Capex listed as a liability?? Why were tier fees, wages etc listed as liabilities. It was a nice little &quot;bank rec&quot;, but what I really wanted was a profit &amp; loss. It was 5 pages of crap, nothing more. As for Nicholas Portocarerro, and his BNT comments, he is entitled to his opinion, but if you are going to put up an argument about &quot;analysing a share&quot; could you at least give us some analysis, not opinions
- As for analysis, here&#039;s my analysis of HCL. The only people trading on the WSE are funds looking to move the market in their favour to make their portfolios looks good, and the odd resident with a couple of hundered of lindens up their sleeve. Anyone with any intelligence and proper purchasing power has sold out and left. The WSE is on track to average a mere 60 million turnover a month, thats 1.8 million in revenue. Luke Connell gave very little financial information in his report, so let&#039;s be generous and say that HCL will get 2.5 million a month in revenue. Once costs are taken out, budgeted at 60% of income, per the prospectus, that leaves HCL with a monthly profit of 1 million, 12 million a year. There are 27 million shares outstanding, that&#039;s 44c a share, currently the market is so depressed the P/E ratios are at 1. In a buoyant market P/E ratios may hit 3 (This is SL, not RL). So in current market conditions I rate HCL a 44c stock, maybe if the market ever recovers I might rate it an 80c stock. Factoring the fraud, lies, incompetance of Luke Connell, the illiquidity of the market, the lack of barriers to competition and the fact that there are people out there far more competant than Luke Connell who will blow WSE away,the damage to the HCL brand the fraud scandal did, and the fact that I will never get any say whatsoever in the running of HCL, I seriously rate HCL a 10c stock. I will not pay anymore than that, because that is what I value them at. So I suggest you stop buying,because you are buying a dog stock.

Before you cry &quot;defamation and slander&quot;, not a problem I am willing to go to court on this matter, should Mr Connell think it necessary. What is it they say about the best defence against defamation?? &quot;Prove that it&#039;s true&quot;, I can prove each and every allegation I have made, it&#039;s all written in the company prospectus&#039;s and reports. There&#039;s a good chance, with all the fraud committed, that Mr Connell will then be taken away and criminally charged.

Answers Intlibber, and dont give me rheteric crap, and dont you dare tell me that ripping people off their hard earned USD is a &quot;game&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intlibber,</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s is a log of the fraud, deception &amp; incompetance perpetrated by Luke Connell against HCL sharholders. Dont give me rheteric, give me answers</p>
<p>- The initial Hope Capital prospectus had $L2 million budgeted for Market setup. In the end it cost $L3.2 Million, and half of the WSE income stream. To get that income stream back Luke had to print 12.5 million shares to issue to Shaun Altman. The market crash and subsequent total melt down was entirely the fault of Luke Connell<br />
- The initial HCL prospectus stated that World Currency Exchange shareholders were to receive 20 HCL shares for each 1 WCE held. I was a WCE shareholder, I never received my shares. Where did they go?? Who got them. I can only assume that the ended up in Luke Connells personal account. I took this matter up with Luke Connell, only to be told &#8220;It&#8217;s just a game&#8221;. He stole USD from me and I want them back.<br />
- The initial HCL prospectus, dated 22 December, states that Luke Connell will not sell any of his personal HCL stock for 6 months. According to the last HCL report Luke has sold 1 million shares, such a dumping of shares has significantly devalued the HCL stock, ripping off HCL IPO investors,Luke Connell has committed fraud.<br />
- The initial HCL prosectus states that HCL was to be a company made up of 10 million shares. People invested based on this, suddenly we found out that 2.5 million shares had been issued. Who too? Why? What were the terms? Why weren&#8217;t current HCL shareholders invited to invest? It turns out that Luke Connell had sold off shares significantly below market rate to a bunch of his mates. Connell finally informed the market of the terms almost 3 months after the issue. I invested in Hope Capital based on the prospectus presented to me, Why were my shareholders diluted without my asking??<br />
- Why didn&#8217;t Luke Connell take 5 minutes to do the odd check or two when companies listed?? Was he not concerned about WSE&#8217;s reputation, and the damage that a fraud scandal would bring with it?? Apparently not.<br />
- Companies listing have been trying to list at terms of say 5 million shares total, 1 million IPO. Connell then changes the IPO, WITHOUT the approval of the company owner, lists it, and suddenly they are selling 1 million<br />
shares for 2.5 million outstanding. This is theft, fraud, deception and gods know whatever. Connell is selling that person asset far cheaper than they had applied for, without their permission. Who lists is up to the CEO, but the terms of that listing is totally up<br />
to company owner. If Luke doesn&#8217;t like the terms then he<br />
can simply refuse to list them, but cannot change the terms of the listing without owner approval.<br />
- You argue that someone should be able to analyse a stock and value, that is true. I read the HCL &#8220;report&#8221;, what was the net profit?? Why was capital listed as income?? Why was Capex listed as a liability?? Why were tier fees, wages etc listed as liabilities. It was a nice little &#8220;bank rec&#8221;, but what I really wanted was a profit &amp; loss. It was 5 pages of crap, nothing more. As for Nicholas Portocarerro, and his BNT comments, he is entitled to his opinion, but if you are going to put up an argument about &#8220;analysing a share&#8221; could you at least give us some analysis, not opinions<br />
- As for analysis, here&#8217;s my analysis of HCL. The only people trading on the WSE are funds looking to move the market in their favour to make their portfolios looks good, and the odd resident with a couple of hundered of lindens up their sleeve. Anyone with any intelligence and proper purchasing power has sold out and left. The WSE is on track to average a mere 60 million turnover a month, thats 1.8 million in revenue. Luke Connell gave very little financial information in his report, so let&#8217;s be generous and say that HCL will get 2.5 million a month in revenue. Once costs are taken out, budgeted at 60% of income, per the prospectus, that leaves HCL with a monthly profit of 1 million, 12 million a year. There are 27 million shares outstanding, that&#8217;s 44c a share, currently the market is so depressed the P/E ratios are at 1. In a buoyant market P/E ratios may hit 3 (This is SL, not RL). So in current market conditions I rate HCL a 44c stock, maybe if the market ever recovers I might rate it an 80c stock. Factoring the fraud, lies, incompetance of Luke Connell, the illiquidity of the market, the lack of barriers to competition and the fact that there are people out there far more competant than Luke Connell who will blow WSE away,the damage to the HCL brand the fraud scandal did, and the fact that I will never get any say whatsoever in the running of HCL, I seriously rate HCL a 10c stock. I will not pay anymore than that, because that is what I value them at. So I suggest you stop buying,because you are buying a dog stock.</p>
<p>Before you cry &#8220;defamation and slander&#8221;, not a problem I am willing to go to court on this matter, should Mr Connell think it necessary. What is it they say about the best defence against defamation?? &#8220;Prove that it&#8217;s true&#8221;, I can prove each and every allegation I have made, it&#8217;s all written in the company prospectus&#8217;s and reports. There&#8217;s a good chance, with all the fraud committed, that Mr Connell will then be taken away and criminally charged.</p>
<p>Answers Intlibber, and dont give me rheteric crap, and dont you dare tell me that ripping people off their hard earned USD is a &#8220;game&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun Altman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun Altman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 15:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi IntLibber,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Until you begin actually answering my questions, I&#039;m through responding to your propoganda and inuendo.  Will you be answering them, or just continuing to vent and whine?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, I don&#039;t believe I&#039;ve lied about any stock sales to Anshe or anyone else.  Can you point me to a URL where I&#039;ve lied about a stock sale?  It&#039;s actually YOU who&#039;s lying about stock sales to Anshe.  Maybe you don&#039;t mean to though.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s possible that you&#039;ve just been mis-informed, as you have not been a direct party to any part of this stuff you keep mis-speaking about, and thus all of your &quot;information&quot; has been coming from third parties.  With this in mind, allow me to set you straight.  After that, if you continue to spew this nonsense everywhere you can type a commet, at least we&#039;ll know for sure that you&#039;re a liar rather than possibly mis-informed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You repeatedly claim that she was trying to buy controlling interest in HCL, for various evil reasons that you&#039;ve invented.  The fact is that she was NEVER interested in a number even APPROACHING 50%, and only a fraction of what she WAS buying was to come from me.  I know that you will have some trouble accepting this, as it doesn&#039;t mesh well with your Anshe conspiracy theories, or even the mathematics you&#039;ve acquired from the third parties who have been &quot;informing you&quot;, but that&#039;s how it is.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Why don&#039;t you focus on improving our HCL investment, or even on finishing your IPO, instead of hunting me down on various blogs and attacking me all day?  Your IPO does still have over 30 million shares to go, yes?  After how many extensions now?  How many more extensions will the WSE allow you?  It seems to me like you should have a lot of better things to do.  I know I do.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-Shaun</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi IntLibber,</p>
<p>Until you begin actually answering my questions, I&#8217;m through responding to your propoganda and inuendo.  Will you be answering them, or just continuing to vent and whine?</p>
<p>Also, I don&#8217;t believe I&#8217;ve lied about any stock sales to Anshe or anyone else.  Can you point me to a URL where I&#8217;ve lied about a stock sale?  It&#8217;s actually YOU who&#8217;s lying about stock sales to Anshe.  Maybe you don&#8217;t mean to though.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s possible that you&#8217;ve just been mis-informed, as you have not been a direct party to any part of this stuff you keep mis-speaking about, and thus all of your &#8220;information&#8221; has been coming from third parties.  With this in mind, allow me to set you straight.  After that, if you continue to spew this nonsense everywhere you can type a commet, at least we&#8217;ll know for sure that you&#8217;re a liar rather than possibly mis-informed.</p>
<p>You repeatedly claim that she was trying to buy controlling interest in HCL, for various evil reasons that you&#8217;ve invented.  The fact is that she was NEVER interested in a number even APPROACHING 50%, and only a fraction of what she WAS buying was to come from me.  I know that you will have some trouble accepting this, as it doesn&#8217;t mesh well with your Anshe conspiracy theories, or even the mathematics you&#8217;ve acquired from the third parties who have been &#8220;informing you&#8221;, but that&#8217;s how it is.</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t you focus on improving our HCL investment, or even on finishing your IPO, instead of hunting me down on various blogs and attacking me all day?  Your IPO does still have over 30 million shares to go, yes?  After how many extensions now?  How many more extensions will the WSE allow you?  It seems to me like you should have a lot of better things to do.  I know I do.</p>
<p>-Shaun</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun Altman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun Altman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 14:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi IntLibber,

Until you begin actually answering my questions, I&#039;m through responding to your propoganda and inuendo.  Will you be answering them, or just continuing to vent and whine?

Also, I don&#039;t believe I&#039;ve lied about any stock sales to Anshe or anyone else.  Can you point me to a URL where I&#039;ve lied about a stock sale?  It&#039;s actually YOU who&#039;s lying about stock sales to Anshe.  Maybe you don&#039;t mean to though.

It&#039;s possible that you&#039;ve just been mis-informed, as you have not been a direct party to any part of this stuff you keep mis-speaking about, and thus all of your &quot;information&quot; has been coming from third parties.  With this in mind, allow me to set you straight.  After that, if you continue to spew this nonsense everywhere you can type a commet, at least we&#039;ll know for sure that you&#039;re a liar rather than possibly mis-informed.

You repeatedly claim that she was trying to buy controlling interest in HCL, for various evil reasons that you&#039;ve invented.  The fact is that she was NEVER interested in a number even APPROACHING 50%, and only a fraction of what she WAS buying was to come from me.  I know that you will have some trouble accepting this, as it doesn&#039;t mesh well with your Anshe conspiracy theories, or even the mathematics you&#039;ve acquired from the third parties who have been &quot;informing you&quot;, but that&#039;s how it is.

Why don&#039;t you focus on improving our HCL investment, or even on finishing your IPO, instead of hunting me down on various blogs and attacking me all day?  Your IPO does still have over 30 million shares to go, yes?  After how many extensions now?  How many more extensions will the WSE allow you?  It seems to me like you should have a lot of better things to do.  I know I do.



-Shaun</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi IntLibber,</p>
<p>Until you begin actually answering my questions, I&#8217;m through responding to your propoganda and inuendo.  Will you be answering them, or just continuing to vent and whine?</p>
<p>Also, I don&#8217;t believe I&#8217;ve lied about any stock sales to Anshe or anyone else.  Can you point me to a URL where I&#8217;ve lied about a stock sale?  It&#8217;s actually YOU who&#8217;s lying about stock sales to Anshe.  Maybe you don&#8217;t mean to though.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s possible that you&#8217;ve just been mis-informed, as you have not been a direct party to any part of this stuff you keep mis-speaking about, and thus all of your &#8220;information&#8221; has been coming from third parties.  With this in mind, allow me to set you straight.  After that, if you continue to spew this nonsense everywhere you can type a commet, at least we&#8217;ll know for sure that you&#8217;re a liar rather than possibly mis-informed.</p>
<p>You repeatedly claim that she was trying to buy controlling interest in HCL, for various evil reasons that you&#8217;ve invented.  The fact is that she was NEVER interested in a number even APPROACHING 50%, and only a fraction of what she WAS buying was to come from me.  I know that you will have some trouble accepting this, as it doesn&#8217;t mesh well with your Anshe conspiracy theories, or even the mathematics you&#8217;ve acquired from the third parties who have been &#8220;informing you&#8221;, but that&#8217;s how it is.</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t you focus on improving our HCL investment, or even on finishing your IPO, instead of hunting me down on various blogs and attacking me all day?  Your IPO does still have over 30 million shares to go, yes?  After how many extensions now?  How many more extensions will the WSE allow you?  It seems to me like you should have a lot of better things to do.  I know I do.</p>
<p>-Shaun</p>
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		<title>By: IntLibber Brautigan</title>
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		<dc:creator>IntLibber Brautigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 17:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually Shaun, anybody competent can value a company. Nicholas Portocarrero of Ginko has stated that BNT is &quot;The best value on the market today&quot;. Full stop.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fact is that HCL stock price has dropped solely because you dumped the stock. Where were your demands for a fair valuation when you merged with WSE? WSE had a good number of companies on its exchange listing then, you had one, your own. WSE was clearly a more capitalized market, even if its code was malfunctioning (to put it politely). Instead of taking, say, a stock position equal to Lukes position in HCL (who had I believe about 20% of the company at that point), you demanded a new stock issue equal to 100% of the existing stock issue, so you owned 50% of the WSE. When you did the stock swap of WSE stock for HCL stock, again, you were greedy, and demanded another new stock issue equal to 100% of the existing shares.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Then, rather than waiting for the market to develop more, make HCL stock worth more, you just dump your stock like some day trader, the stock price plummets due to YOUR fire sale antics, then you have the balls to turn around and claim my piddly 2 million share issue &quot;diluted&quot; the stock value. Facts are, I haven&#039;t sold, I&#039;ve bought. I had 1.1 million shares of HCL when this whole ruckus started, now I have over 1.3 million. Buyers don&#039;t cause prices to go down, they cause them to go up. Its excess supply that makes prices drop, and you are the source of excess supply.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And don&#039;t keep trying to lie about the sales to Anshe. How about we both demand (along with Anshe, fat chance there), that Luke release the records? I dare you. If you are so sure of yourself, lets publicize the records. If I&#039;m wrong, I&#039;ll apologize, but I think you won&#039;t ask for it. You prefer to operate in anonymity. I&#039;m the one with my real name up there, not you.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We&#039;re all waiting....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Shaun, anybody competent can value a company. Nicholas Portocarrero of Ginko has stated that BNT is &#8220;The best value on the market today&#8221;. Full stop.</p>
<p>Fact is that HCL stock price has dropped solely because you dumped the stock. Where were your demands for a fair valuation when you merged with WSE? WSE had a good number of companies on its exchange listing then, you had one, your own. WSE was clearly a more capitalized market, even if its code was malfunctioning (to put it politely). Instead of taking, say, a stock position equal to Lukes position in HCL (who had I believe about 20% of the company at that point), you demanded a new stock issue equal to 100% of the existing stock issue, so you owned 50% of the WSE. When you did the stock swap of WSE stock for HCL stock, again, you were greedy, and demanded another new stock issue equal to 100% of the existing shares.</p>
<p>Then, rather than waiting for the market to develop more, make HCL stock worth more, you just dump your stock like some day trader, the stock price plummets due to YOUR fire sale antics, then you have the balls to turn around and claim my piddly 2 million share issue &#8220;diluted&#8221; the stock value. Facts are, I haven&#8217;t sold, I&#8217;ve bought. I had 1.1 million shares of HCL when this whole ruckus started, now I have over 1.3 million. Buyers don&#8217;t cause prices to go down, they cause them to go up. Its excess supply that makes prices drop, and you are the source of excess supply.</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t keep trying to lie about the sales to Anshe. How about we both demand (along with Anshe, fat chance there), that Luke release the records? I dare you. If you are so sure of yourself, lets publicize the records. If I&#8217;m wrong, I&#8217;ll apologize, but I think you won&#8217;t ask for it. You prefer to operate in anonymity. I&#8217;m the one with my real name up there, not you.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re all waiting&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Schack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Schack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 16:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I never got the point of the term can of worms. You open a can of worms, you got a bunch of worms. Now, open a can of bees. That would be interesting. =D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I never got the point of the term can of worms. You open a can of worms, you got a bunch of worms. Now, open a can of bees. That would be interesting. =D</p>
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